“苦涩教训”提出者 Richard Sutton:LLM 扩展的苦涩教训
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图灵奖得主 Richard Sutton 近日发帖称,仅靠原始算力不足以实现智能,AI 科学需要更聪明的新方法,且“远未完成”。他此前曾批评单纯扩展大语言模型的局限,并称合成数据是“大错误”,主张智能体应具备世界模型、能从自身经验持续学习。AI 研究者 Jerry Tworek 则回应称苦涩教训仍成立,但算力投入越多算法越重要,部分算法能扩展、部分会走进死胡同。
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The inventor of the bitter lesson has a bitter lesson for LLM enthusiasts. Other researchers agree.
In a recent post, Turing Award winner Richard Sutton says raw compute alone isn't enough for intelligence. AI science needs clever new methods and is "far from finished." His post sparked wide discussion in the AI community on X, a sign that Sutton struck a nerve.

In his famous 2019 essay "The Bitter Lesson," Sutton argued that general methods scaling with compute beat sophisticated human-engineered approaches eventually. What matters are ideas that grow with compute rather than rely on human assumptions.
Sutton's position isn't new. In earlier statements, he criticized the limits of simply scaling large language models. He called synthetic data a "big mistake" because the real world is infinitely complex and any simulation of it is only "microscopic." Human expertise as a bottleneck prevents true scaling.
Instead, he called for agents with world models that continuously learn from their own experience. The world is massively more complex than what internet text can capture, and today's language models don't keep learning after training, Sutton argues. What's needed is continuous learning without destroying old knowledge.
LLMs under scrutiny
AI researcher Jerry Tworek, who like many others left OpenAI, one of the major AI companies, to explore new AI approaches, puts Sutton's latest statement in context. The bitter lesson still holds, but the more compute goes into model training, the more the algorithm matters, Tworek writes.
Some algorithms scale, others hit dead ends, and many dimensions of scaling remain completely unexplored. The temporary success of transformer scaling, combined with a misreading of the bitter lesson, "has reward-hacked the brains of a whole generation of scientists."
AI researcher Jayden Teoh adds another angle. He says he has repeatedly seen the bitter lesson hold back academic research, with promising ideas dismissed for straying too far from its spirit. Teoh argues that this is not Sutton’s fault but a misreading of his original message.
Teoh also argues that ideas that seemed, in hindsight, not to follow the bitter lesson were often replaced by cleaner, more general approaches. That did not make those ideas wrong, he says; they were often what enabled progress at the time. He wants the research community to stop dismissing such work as soon as it appears. “An idea doesn’t necessarily have to survive scaling forever to be an important contribution to AI progress,” Teoh writes.
The tension between Sutton's call for new learning methods and Tworek's criticism of blind transformer scaling shows up in a growing wave of startups. In the latest Frontier Radar #5, we tracked 45 new AI labs betting on exactly these gaps.
Tworek himself runs Core Automation, one of those labs, searching for learning algorithms beyond pretraining and reinforcement learning. What unites these founders, including Sutton with Oak Lab, is that they believe in much more capable AI but doubt today's recipe alone will get there.
Some still bet on LLM scaling
Prominent industry leaders see things very differently. OpenAI CEO Sam Altman considers large language model scaling far from exhausted and accuses LLM critics of slowing down an entire generation of researchers by being too sure about what scaling can't do.
As evidence, he points to an OpenAI model that recently disproved a mathematical conjecture mathematicians had long failed to crack. He considers world models useful, for instance in robotics, but says the data clearly favor further LLM scaling.
Anthropic CEO Dario Amodei argues similarly, calling scaling progress a rainbow with no end. As CEOs of the two AI companies whose entire technical approach rests on this bet, Amodei and Altman are obviously biased in its favor.
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Matthias Bastian. The inventor of the bitter lesson has a bitter lesson for LLM scaling enthusiasts[EB/OL]. (2026-11-08)[访问日期]. https://the-decoder.com/the-inventor-of-the-bitter-lesson-has-a-bitter-lesson-for-llm-scaling-enthusiasts/.